Breaking Bad – Say My Name
by deerinthexenonarclights

Say My Name was very much an episode about big-noting and bravado, about the many men of Breaking Bad measuring themselves to see who’s biggest. Whereas the Walt of season one would have wimped away from any such show of power we are shown almost instantly in this episode just how cocksure the character has become. I expected Walt’s big plan to deal with the gang to be something scientific, some sort of secret chemistry trick that only he could think of, but instead of using his intelligence to solve the problem he instead went with instinct; his smug staring down of a mad Mike at the end of last week’s episode was simply a warm-up for what was yet to come at the beginning of this one.
In the first of many reversals this week Walt walks out of the car without a hint of fear and instead of whimpering at the gang members, instead of begging for his life he simply tells them that he is in control here, that they now work for him and his confidence is so great that they believe every word. That same hubris that has caused so many major missteps throughout the series not only saves his life but nets him a new potential ally (though chances are t won’t actually work out this way). To add insult to injury he doesn’t simply stop at declaring himself the Alpha dog of this pack but instantly starts ordering them to do tricks: to sit, to speak and to, as the title suggests, “Say My Name!” and when they do what is the answer they give (the right answer)? Not Walter White, but Heisenberg.
So Walt was a wus and Heisenberg is a big man, this we’ve known for a very long time. At first though Heisenberg was just an act, he was a costume that Walt wore to help him get through the terrible and terrifying things he was experiencing and enacting on a daily basis. Over the past season and a bit though we have seen this dynamic reverse, with Heisenberg taking over permanent possession and only putting on a ‘Walt’ mask when he needs to seem weak or moral; his humanity is now the mask in the same way that it is for Superman (after all Clark is the one who wears something to cover his face, as the famous line goes). Mike was the only man able to see through both disguises and through the bullshit at the badness that lies beneath – he’s never liked Walt and probably never would have regardless of the situation that they were in.
Ever since their first tangle in the bar Mike has been sure that he could best Walt in any way that he would ever need to, but the problem is that Mike never takes into account Walt’s desperation and sheer insanity: He snuck up on Walt in the laundry but by then Gale was dead, he had Jessie snuggled up by his side as a second but before he could move Gus was murdered and then he ties him up with a single strip of plastic because whats Walt gonna do, burn himself out of it? No matter what he did Walt was never going to be able to convince Mike that he was a real man because Mike kept those preconceptions locked in so tight, he wasn’t willing to change his ways like many old men aren’t. This confidence also saved Walt though it cost Mike everything, the X-ray vision that normally saves his life ended up costing him it.
In an episode of such twists and reversals it was strange to see Mike’s demise so deeply foreshadowed. The episode opens with him cleaning up all of his loose ends, as if preparing to die; prophetic to some, predictable to others. That though isn’t so much of an issue, instead I would say that the pacing of it is what perturbed me (and I hate to say that since I have been getting so sick and tired of everyone else shouting about the pacing of this eight-episdoe season). The storyline here was undeniably brisk though, to set-up so many elements and have them all pay off within the same episode is unlike Breaking Bad. Chekov has a gun, a key, a car a promise of immortality and even a schmuck lawyer (Saul even got to do a bit of showing off in this episode) that he creates and arms in the second act, all of which explode in and are essential only to the story in the third. It was kind of contrived. Maybe though I’m just disappointed because I so wanted Mike to ride off into the sunset; the ending that he got though was still pretty Western and very pretty, so worse things have happened.
Another twist of sorts came in the way that though so many of Mike’s final words were straight to the point I do wonder if maybe they were missing it somewhat since even if Walt didn’t have a family ( which he really doesn’t at this point) he would still be stuck here because he doubled down by making the deal with a mob much less inclined to allow his defaulting than Jessie is. Similarly, while Walt’s words to Jessie in that scene are perhaps the worst he could have used, what he says is actually also right in a lot of ways: Jessie doesn’t have a life, nor has he seen his family in years ( or ‘a year’ since the timeline is so whack) so what is he going to do once he quits making meth? What is there left but to use it?
Despite their accuracy the acidity of the words Walt used do betray his true intentions to Jessie, who is now starting to re-shape his own preconceptions of this person he once knew as ‘Mr.White’. The question is, will he figure out who Walt really is in time or will he follow in his second mentor’s path and simply be another name added to Walt’s toll? Will Walt return to take control? There seemed to be a glimpse of him hiking out in the scene by the river, some real regret when none was needed since no-one else was around. Only one week left till we find out that or at least the direction that the show will be heading towards in its final stretch before it slips onto its side with a similar, sickly thud.


This was 90% a great, great episode.
However it kinda annoyed me that Hank’s boss is underestimating his judgement. Hank has already proven himself thoroughly since his hunch about Gus Fring turned out to be accurate, I’d have thought his boss would trust his hunches a bit more now. I guess the way it played still makes sense though. Also, Walt getting to remove the bug is a shame, I had hoped Hank would find it and put the pieces together about Walt. I really hope it is just a red herring and that Hank will indeed figure out the truth in some other way next week.
But it annoyed me EXTREMELY that Mike turned his back on Walter. After insulting him. In a deserted area. Knowing that Walt had access to a bag with a gun in it. Knowing full well that Walt hates him. Knowing that Walt can’t stand to be insulted and is prone to impulsive actions in the heat of the moment. It just didn’t add up.
Mike has generally been established to be almost superhumanly careful, and people can say what they want about how Mike never took Walt seriously as a threat, and okay sure. But under the circumstances, I did not buy for one second that Mike would be quite so defeatable in this scene.
I think it would’ve been a much better scene if Walt had premeditated the murder of Mike. If Mike had been more cautious but still somehow come undone, and if Walt had ruthlessly walked up to the dying Mike and blown his brains out. Nothing to do with any names, just because he didn’t like him.
The scene as it stands was gorgeously filmed and beautifully acted. But I hated it, because I just thought it could have been a lot more smartly-done in terms of how Mike came undone. And it should also have been a lot more chilling. I mean, I do think there should be a moment for Walt to apologise for something and be a bit rattled, but I don’t think it should’ve been this scene. The whole “I forgot Lydia has the list” thing seemed really forced to me. I think this should’ve been a full-Heisenberg scene, fully ruthless and evil. Walt choosing to premeditate the murder of a man simply because he didn’t like him, and then hiding the truth from Jesse.
As it stands, gorgeously-filmed, gorgeously-acted, but probably the most frustrated I’ve ever been by any scene in the entire history of the show. Which is a shame, because I adored the rest of the episode and really wanna talk about that, but I just can’t shut up about how much the ending annoyed me.
“Even Pro’s make mistakes.” + “I can handle Walt”
I think the ending is flawed if the show were about Mike, if he needed to play well within it. As the show is actually about Walt though I had less of an issue with it since it showed us some very interesting things about him: He isn’t actually ok with everything that he’s doing, he isn’t a cold blooded killer like the one you describe, Walt isn’t as dead as Mike, Heisenberg hasn’t won yet.
Mike made some accusations, he pushed a button and since Walt is so tightly coiled inside from hiding the impact of everything that he’s done and is doing he cracked and lashed out far beyond even his own expectations. What that scene suggested to me is that even Walt doesn’t know whether he should be rooting for himself or whether he’s still the good guy and that is far more interesting to me then if he was simply a ruthless robot-hitman. Mr.Chips to Scarface is interesting because of the conflict between the two states, the middle ground; simply locking Walt into one kind of kills that friction.
So sure the logic of the scene wasn’t as strong as it could have been – then again neither was the train robbery’s – but I didn’t even dislike it, let alone hate it. Shame you did though.
I always thought Gilligan said the aim was to turn Walt “from Mr Chips into Scarface”, not “into something halfway between Mr Chips and Scarface”.
That said though, I do think there is validity in that sort of middle ground, it has been something I have been really wanting to see explored before the series finishes. I thought the best time for it would be after Walt goes on the run but then has a change of heart and comes back to save somebody. I just felt that showing Walt’s more human side here was totally the wrong time for the writers to do it and totally the wrong way to do it.
I think the Walt vs Mike showdown should have showed Mike at his most careful, and therefore Walt having to be at his most calculating and cold-blooded to defeat him.
I mean, Mike- a) turning his back on Walt, b) in a deserted area, c) immediately after insulting Walt repeatedly, d) knowing Walt’s impulsive, murderous, egocentric personality, and e) knowing Walt has access to a bag with a gun in it.
No way. I can accept Mike having one or two of those lapses due to the “I can handle Walt/ even pros make mistakes” type stuff. But I can’t accept him making all of those mistakes in the same scene. Mike had been established to be more thorough in his thinking than that.
PS. It might be a different story if Walt hadn’t already strongly implied his desire to murder Mike back in “Hazard Pay”, and not being conflicted about it back then. And even in the heat of the moment, I don’t think Walt would forget about Lydia knowing the names as well. I really do think there is validity in Walt showing remorse in various scenes over the rest of the series, but I think there were just sooooooo many holes of logic required in making this exact scene play out as it did, at this exact point in time.
Hmmm… I’m not sure if the show betrayed its own presentation as much as it maybe did your expectations of it. It has been hammering the Mike as professional bit as much as it has been the Professionals make mistakes line, and Walt was always going to be his mistake.
As for how they went about doing it; I think that if Walt had tried to enact a complex plan against Mike then Mike would have seen right through it. For this to work the act had to surprise Walt as much as it did anyone else; it had to be instinct rather than intelligence which Mike wouldn’t expect from Walt.
We may not like it, but that’s not the same as it lacking any logic.
It was an odd ending I guess and still digesting it all. On first impression it seems like a fairly low key episode after a couple of high octane efforts. In Vince We Trust has done this before of course and he always has a bigger plan in place. The easy recovery of the bug was a tad disappointing too. So all in all a bit disappointed at present at the relative ease some things happened in this episode
This episode seemed very utilitarian, despite the very creative montages that the show is famous for. So much of it was simply setting things up, or ticking things of the list: Tod needed to be the new apprentice, the bug needed to be removed as a red herring, the Methlamine needed to be recovered, Hank needed to go through the hazing by the higher ups, Jessie needed to find out about Walt and the gang needed to be introduced since Mike needed to be replaced as distributor. All of those things were necessary but they weren’t all handled as nicely as they could or should have been. Either way though they’re all done now so the show can go straight into the good stuff next week; this was the revving for the finales high octane acceleration (i hope).
The debate between Walt and Jesse was one of my favourite scenes in the entire 5 seasons. Which helps somewhat to cancel out the fact that Mike’s death scene was my least favourite scene in the five seasons (at least that I can think of).
Here’s hoping for an excellent finale.
Did anyone else catch the shot looking down on Walt in Hank’s office that seemed to be from the perspective of a newly-installed surveillance camera? It could be one hell of an awesome way to end next week’s finale if Walt thinks the bug issue is nothing to worry about anymore, but Hank ends up seeing him removing it on surveillance footage.
Yeah, noticed that shot when he was installing it too. Could be a cool twist, a camera started off the season so ending it that way would work, but it could just be a surveillance style shot to mirror the fact that Walt is bugging Hank.
My theories for the show have been way off though so I’m not going to get too attached to anything that seems like a sign (like the artificial caviar).
We saw Hank installing the camera? Or Walt? I must’ve missed something.
Anyway, I guess now we’ll never know what happened to Mike in Philly. I still wanna know exactly why Walt left Gray Matter too. And more of the backstory of Gus. Breaking Bad tends to like to leave these things to the imagination though.
I think he meant installing the bug youngun not the camera.
It would be a fitting end because all of a sudden Hank is being protrayed as not as smart as we thought and that doesnt gel. Also trusting Walt so much as to have that conversation in the doorway while he was still in the office. It could all come down to a far reaching plan that Hank has always had to catch Walt. There were a few things you could be picky on with this episode – like the seemingly easy get away from the park for Mike with police pretty well all around and the grand daughter still swinging away 3 days later:) Are we sure Mike is dead anyway – didnt seem like a particularly fatal wound on first impression
I think the thunk at the end was pretty final, BB isn’t really a show that would suggest a death and then go back on it. That said he might have one last word in him or another facet to his will that will effect Walt.
Was it Season 3 where we ended with the did Jessie kill him or not scenario – from memory even VInce admitted it was ambiguous although not designed to be?
Yeah that was Three, where they spun the camera which made it look like Jessie maybe moved when that was never the intention. I think we can safely say though that Walt at the very least ‘hit’.
Yes he was – just reminding you that BB isn’t always black and white my friend.
No, that’s only in the airplane flash-forwards.
I still think Mike would’ve immediately checked the bag while facing Walt and holding him at gunpoint with his spare gun. The show didn’t do a good enough job of convincing me otherwise.
I wonder who this could be…
When it comes to debates on what a character would or wouldn’t do I tend to think that the show knows better than I do. If Mike doesn’t check the bag until he gets back to the car then in that situation what Mike would do is not check the bag until he gets back to the car.
I’ve probably never disagreed more with anything you’ve ever said. But I can’t wait to use that excuse in my creative writing classes if they ever complain about moments that are out of character.
Mike’s level of intelligence has flickered back and forth this season based on the needs of the plot. It’s the show taking narrative shortcuts, which it has done this season more than any other (eg. the laptop of Gus with incriminating evidence being left easy to find on his desk in his office, the photo frame with the piece of paper saying “HERE ARE THE DETAILS TO MY CAYMAN ISLANDS ACCOUNT”). The show has still been 90% great, but it’s been breaking its own rules on more occasions than before.
As Sepinwall said, Mike is Batman, except for the times when the plot requires Mike to not be Batman. After Walt suceeded at killing Gus (who was a formidable opponent), Mike should’ve known not to underestimate him. The show did not do much work to explain why Mike would not understand this by now. A couple of lines like “even pro’s make mistakes” and “I can handle Walt” is nowhere near justification for a crucial scene hinging on a character being dumber than he normally is. Just compare Mike’s scenes in Madrigal and Full Measures to his scenes in this one. Those past eps show him as Batman, whereas this episode showed him as one of the three stooges.
Saying “the show knows better than I do” is no excuse for sloppy storytelling.
Again, I don’t disagree that this season and this episode in particular was rushed and obvious in its intentions, I guess I just see that as being different to illogical. To say that the show made the foreshadowing for Mike’s mistake too obvious and then follow with ‘Well where did that come from?’ seems a bit of a strange argument to me.
Since the very beginning Breaking Bad has been a show about people becoming undone by their overconfidence: we’ve seen it with Walt, we saw it with Gus and most recently it is what murdered Mike (coincidentally did you have an issue with Gus dying like that, since the situations are identical. He was more superhuman until he wasn’t).
Mike’s an old man and this isn’t a comic book, it’s set in the real world, no character in it is going to be perfect, especially when their whole life has just been ripped out from under them. The show tells us that by having Mike sweat much more here than he ever did in Mexico. He then turned his back for three seconds on a high school chemistry teacher who he had just scolded, who was standing meekly, defeated before him. He had won. To me that all makes complete sense. If anything it is the scenes in which he outsmarts people that are probably the least ‘believable.’
Not liking something is fine, you certainly don’t have to like the scene, but the basis you’re taking for why just seems a little silly to me.
You may be interested in reading the interviews with John Banks, he also didn’t like the direction the character took this year but ceded that Vince controls the pen. He wanted to play Batman till the end, but was stuck instead with Bruce Wayne.
First things first- with your quote “To say that the show made the foreshadowing for Mike’s mistake too obvious and then follow with ‘Well where did that come from?’ seems a bit of a strange argument to me”. When did I say anything about obvious foreshadowing in the episode? Find me a quote, and I’m going to feel like shit if there is one because I didn’t have much of a problem with the foreshadowing at all.
I also didn’t have a problem with the way Gus came undone last season. This is because it was perfectly established that Gus’ emotions got in the way of his intelligence when it came to Hector Salamanca. This left Walt an angle to exploit in order to get around the defenses of Gus. It was perfectly communicated as to why such a formidable man could come undone.
There wasn’t that same extent of tightness for me with the logic/motivations/plotting in what happened to Mike. The show hadn’t established Mike’s weak spot regarding Walt as extensively or as convincingly for me.
The scenes of Mike outsmarting people were unbelievable using real-world logic. Using TV show logic though, it makes sense for a hitman to become Batman if he’s been in the game long enough. For me it doesn’t make sense for Mike, who knows not to underestimate people (see: the “half-measures” speech where he speaks of how he learnt that lesson), who should know Walt is formidable (because Walt killed Gus- who was Superman), who knows Walt hates him, he knows Walt is impulsive, he knows Walt had access to a bag with a gun in it.
I just wanted Mike to check the bag while holding Walt at gunpoint. I think the writer’s could have obliged my request, and still found a way to have Walt manage to kill Mike. It would’ve been tricky, but it’s their job to not take shortcuts.
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I think the boy has a point . Mike did not live as long as he did by underestimating people and he knew what Walt was capable of.
Well to me Mike underestimating Walt was at least as clear as Gus and Hector – it’s been there since Season Three and has been mentioned at least once every two episodes this year – so that being his downfall made total sense to me.
As for the foreshadowing remark, I assumed when you were saying the show took shortcuts that you were referring to the way that it put all of the hints to Mike’s demise here in the one episode while it left the less obvious elements of its inspiration floating outside of the scene. If that’s not the case then I retract. For me though the main issue was that Mike dying in that way was too obvious and too set-up: him throwing the guns in the well was an obvious piece of foreshadowing for where he was going and Walt looking at the gun made it obvious how he would get there, so I was surprised only that the show stuck to the story it had set-up when usually it does something unexpected in those moments.
Vince has gone on record as saying that he likes to Leave viewers guessing about certain motivations, that he likes to leave us with things that make us say “Was that Walt at the end?”, “Did he just commit his first entirely unjustified murder?” ” Why did he say that”, etc. and this seems like a strong example of that. For me, as I said in the message, character is derived from action, what a character does on screen determines who they are and what they would do and so these moments work for me because they cause the characters to evolve, for Mike to become more shaded than simply Batman, for the corrosive effect that Walt has had on him to become visible and for Walt’s situation to become more complex morally. That stuff is what I watch the show for.
When I say shortcuts I mean that Mike had to act out of character in order for Walt to be able to kill him. Whereas I wish they had put more time and effort in and found a way for it to happen that would be in character for Mike.
I think Mike has certainly been condescending towards Walter many, many times. For me that’s not the same as underestimating Walt though. The only times I can think of where Mike underestimated Walter in ways that seemed both serious and unintelligent of Mike was when he only chained one of Walt’s hands to the wall last week, and all the things in the closing scene of this episode.
So to me those two instances seemed out of character and silly. Whereas for me the seeds of the downfall of Gus just flowed much more naturally in the story and didn’t feel forced at all.
^ That was me, of course.
Filthybasterd, even though it keeps saying my new name is apparently “Anonymous”. Even though I’ve logged in the same way I always do.
Sepinwall just tweeted this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTEOpEGvcKA&feature=youtu.be&t=1m10s
From now on whenever someone does something ‘out of character’ like getting a strike while bowling you will know why.
Such a creepy looking teen.
Thanks, Barb I’m looking forrwad to being there! If anyone has any questions or specific topics they’d like me to address, feel free to pass them along or leave them here in the comments. See you soon!